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The Duke of Sussex has claimed that the Prince and Princess of Wales had never got on with the Duchess of Sussex “from the get-go.”
In an exclusive interview with Tom Bradby on ITV, Prince Harry also accused Prince William and Kate of “stereotyping” his wife Meghan as a “divorced biracial American actress”.
When asked if the the impression that Prince William and Kate and Meghan “just don’t get on” from the “get go” was “fair”, Prince Harry replied: “Yeah fair”.
He accused the pair of never expecting him to find “someone like Meghan who had a very successful career.”
“There was a lot of stereotyping that was happening, that I was guilty of as well, at the beginning,” he said. “American actress, right, and that was playing out in the British press in the media at the time as well.”
He adds: “Some of the things that my brother and sister-in-law – some of the way that they were acting or behaving – definitely felt to me as though, unfortunately, that stereotyping was causing a bit of a barrier to them really sort of, you know, introducing or welcoming her in.
“Well, American actress, divorced, biracial, there’s all different parts to that and what that can mean.”
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Use of Diana secret code ‘heartbreaking’
The Duke of Sussex said it was “heartbreaking” that he “simply didn’t believe” his brother when he said he wanted him to be happy and used the words “on mummy’s life” at the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral.
In his book Spare, Harry described the phrase as a “universal password” or a “secret code” between the pair, which he said they had used for 25 years “for when one of us needed to be heard”.
Harry told Tom Bradby on ITV: “It is heartbreaking. This whole thing is completely, not just unnecessary, it’s incredibly sad.
“But there’s a – there’s a way through it, there’s a way out of it. And that’s what I’m focused on now. But yes, it’s heartbreaking.”
Harry hopes father and brother will read Spare
The Duke of Sussex said he did not believe the King or the Prince of Wales would read his book and did not know if they would watch the interview with Tom Bradby on ITV.
He told the broadcaster: “I don’t think my father or brother will read the book. I really hope they do, but I don’t think they will.
“And with regard to this interview I don’t know whether they’ll be watching this or not, but what they have to say to me and what I have to say to them will be in private, and I hope it can stay that way.”
Awkward exchange over losing virginity
The Duke of Sussex asked ITV interviewer Tom Bradby whether Bradby would like to talk about losing his own virginity, in an awkward exchange that follows revelations Harry made in his memoir about his wilder teenage years.
Asking Harry about the new book Spare, Bradby said: “I won’t, uh, spoil it, ’cause there’s a lot, there’s an awful lot of, um, material in there. You know, there’s you losing your virginity. I think, you know…?”
Harry said: “Apparently.”
“Sensitive viewers turn away now. Um…,” Bradbury continued.
“It’s four lines or something,” said Harry.
“Right…,” Bradbury replied.
“If that,” Harry continued.
Bradby said: “OK. Oh, I’m just scrubbing it from my memory still. But it’s OK.”
And Harry asked: “We can talk about you losing your virginity, if you want?”
To which Bradby replied: “No, that’s, that’s, let’s not do that um, er, let’s not go there.”
Harry admits taking class A drugs as a teenager
Prince Harry has admitted taking class A drugs as a teenager at a country house but said it did not make him feel happy.
Speaking to ITV’s Tom Bradby about his new book Spare, the Duke said it was “important to acknowledge” his drug-taking, which included marijuana, magic mushrooms and cocaine.
My beard is ‘shield to my anxiety’, says Duke
The Duke of Sussex has described an alleged row over keeping his beard for his own wedding.
He claims he asked the late Queen for permission to keep his beard for his wedding, which she allowed, but his brother the Prince of Wales was unhappy.
Asked what the disagreement was actually about by Tom Bradby on ITV, Harry said: “I think a lot of it is to do with – I mean I refer to it as heir/spare but also older brother/younger brother – there’s a level of competition there.
“And again, writing this, I remembered that William had a beard himself and that granny and other people, the ones to tell – told him that he had to shave it off.
“The difference for me, if there was a difference, but the difference for me was, as I explained to my grandmother, that this beard – that I’m still wearing – felt to me at the time like the new Harry, right. As almost like a shield to my anxiety.
“I think William found it hard that other people told him to shave it off, and yet here I was on my wedding day wearing military uniform, no longer in the military, but believing as though I should shave it off before my wedding day.
“And I said ‘well I don’t believe that Meghan’s going to recognise me if she comes up the aisle and sees
Prince Harry shrugs off ‘fab four’ idea
The Duke of Sussex told Tom Bradby on ITV the idea of him and his wife being the “fab four” with the Prince and Princess of Wales was “something the British press created” and it “creates competition”.
He said: “The idea of the four of us being together was always a hope for me. Before it was Meghan, whoever it was going to be, I always hoped that the four of us would get on.
“But, very quickly it became Meghan versus Kate. And that, when it plays out so publicly, you can’t hide from that, right?
“Especially when within my family you have the newspapers laid out pretty much in every single palace and house that is around.”
Prince of Wales ‘raised concerns’ about marriage to Meghan Markle
The Duke of Sussex claimed his brother “raised some concerns” about his marriage to Meghan Markle.
Harry told Tom Bradby on ITV: “He never tried to dissuade me from marrying Meghan but he aired some concerns very early on and said ‘this is going to be really hard for you’, and I still to this day don’t truly understand which part of what he was talking about.
“Maybe he predicted what the British press’s reaction was going to be?”
Analysis: Is Harry frustrated?
Analysis by Victoria Ward, Royal Correspondent
Harry seems frustrated with Tom Bradby’s line of questioning and appears to bristle when pushed on his views about the media and his decision to reveal intimate family secrets.
Tom Bradby’s reaction to the Duke’s account of losing his virginity led to an awkward moment as the journalist said he wanted to “scrub it from his memory”.
It will be interesting to see if their close friendship endures.
Tom Bradby describes how Harry also accuses Charles in his book of intimacy and communication problems, and not being there for him.
“Your other criticism is that too often your interests are sacrificed to his interests, certainly when it comes to the press,” Mr Bradby said.
Harry agreed and replied: “I have a lot of compassion and … even understanding as to why certain members of my family need to have that relationship with the tabloid press.
“I do, I understand it. I don’t agree with it, but I do understand it. And there have been decisions that have happened on the other side that have been incredibly hurtful.
“And they… and it continues. It hasn’t stopped. It’s continuing the whole, the whole way through.”
Prince Harry on his father and parenthood
The Duke of Sussex has also questioned when Charles had the “patience” and “time” for parenthood.
“He’d always given an air of not being quite ready for parenthood: the responsibilities, the patience, the time. Even he, though a proud man, would have admitted as much. But single parenthood? Pa was never made for that. To be fair, he tried,” he wrote in Spare.
Speaking of his affection for Charles, he tells Bradby: “Of course, he’s my father. I will always love him.”
King ‘blamed himself’ for Prince Harry’s struggles
The Duke of Sussex has written of how his father the King blamed himself for his son’s struggles, telling him “I should have got you the help you needed years ago”.
He says his “Pa” was “never made” for single parenthood but had tried, and told Tom Bradby in an interview on ITV he will “always love” his father.
Narrating his autobiography Spare, the duke said: “Over dinner one night at Highgrove, Pa and I spoke at some length about what I’d been suffering.
“I gave him the particulars, told him story after story. Towards the end of the meal he looked down at his plate and said softly “I suppose it’s my fault. I should have got you the help you needed years ago”.
“I assured him that it wasn’t his fault, but I appreciated the apology.”
Allegations of leaking
Gordon Rayner writes: One of the more puzzling aspects of Prince Harry’s book and interview is that he insists on pinning the blame for a leaked conversation with Prince William on his stepmother the Queen Consort, even though it is a matter of record that she was not the leaker.
The details of William’s first conversation with Camilla were actually leaked, inadvertently, by Camilla’s own private secretary, Amanda MacManus, who was eventually sacked over the incident.
Mrs MacManus told her husband, a media executive, who in turn was said to have told a former colleague, who told a newspaper.
Camilla put out a statement about the leak of the 1998 meeting at the time, and Mrs MacManus said she was “very sorry”, adding: “It is a matter of great regret to me that chance remarks of mine led to the disclosure in the press of the private meeting between Mrs Parker Bowles and Prince William.”
Prince Harry on separation from William
Interviewer Tom Bradby puts it to Prince Harry that his account of his brother, the Prince of Wales, begins with deep love.
Prince Harry responds: “Love but also separation. Which I think will really surprise people, the fact that we grew up – I mean our mother was dressing us in the same clothes to start with, William didn’t like that, I think I seem to remember I found it quite funny, but the older, younger sort of sibling rivalry as such, now is only really becoming, I guess real to me.
“Like, sorry, okay, for instance I talk about the relationship between William and myself at Eton. And the fact that he didn’t really want to know me, and you know, as the younger brother that sucks.”
The Duke says “that hurt at the time”, adding: “But now, well the gap between me and William is very similar to Archie and Lily.”
Duke of Sussex on Charles’s marriage to Camilla
The Duke of Sussex says his brother Prince William and he told his father on the question of Camilla, the Queen Consort: “Please don’t marry her, just be together”.
“William and I wanted our father to be happy and he seemed to be very, very happy with her. We asked him not to get married. He chose to and that’s his decision. But the two of them were and remain very happy together,” he says.
Prince Harry adds that he is now genuinely at peace with their marriage.
Prince Harry says he wants accountability, not just reconciliation
Prince Harry adds on his call for reconciliation: “Though I would like to have reconciliation, I would like accountability, I’ve managed to make peace over this time with a lot of things that have happened.
“But that doesn’t mean that I’m just gonna let it go. You know, I’ve made peace with it, but I still would like reconciliation. And not only would that be wonderful for us, but it would be fantastic for them as well.”
He adds: “I see a lack of scrutiny to my family towards a lot of the things that have happened in the last year.”
I don’t recognise my father and brother, says Prince Harry
The Duke of Sussex he “doesn’t recognise” his father and brother at the moment.
He tells ITV’s Tom Bradby: “I think there’s probably a lot of people who, after watching the documentary and reading the book, will go, how could you ever forgive your family for what they’ve done?
“People have already said that to me. And I said, forgiveness is 100 per cent a possibility because I would like to get my father back. I would like to have my brother back. At the moment, I don’t recognise them, as much as they probably don’t recognise me.”
He calls the British tabloid press the “antagonist… who want to create as much conflict as possible”.
Prince Harry goes on to claim in the interview: “The saddest part of that is certain members of my family and the people that work for them are complicit in that conflict. “
‘No institution is immune to accountability’
Harry discusses his desire for reconciliation.
He tells Mr Bradby: “No institution is immune to accountability or taking responsibility. So you can’t be immune to criticisms either.
“And you talk about, you know, scrutiny and, you know, my wife and I were scrutinised more than, probably, anybody else. I see a lack of scrutiny to my family towards a lot of the things that have happened in the last year. “
Duke is desperate to write new narrative of Princess Diana’s death
By Gordon Rayner, associate editor
Prince Harry is desperate to write a new narrative of his mother’s death, saying that even a driver who had been drinking and was speeding could never have lost control of a car in the Alma tunnel unless they were “completely blinded at the wheel”.
What he has chosen to leave out of that narrative is the infamous Fiat Uno that clipped – or was clipped by – the Mercedes seconds before it crashed.
French investigators never managed to track down the car or its driver, but when a collision between two cars – one of them travelling at speed – in a confined space is added to the equation, a different picture emerges.
The inquest into Princess Diana’s death did find that her car was being pursued by paparazzi photographers, as Prince Harry repeatedly points out, but also that driver Henri Paul was drunk and driving too fast.
It also concluded that Diana and her boyfriend Dodi Fayed might have survived if they had been wearing seatbelts.
‘Lots of things unexplained’ about Diana death
Prince Harry says there are many things about Princess Diana’s death that are “unexplained”.
“There’s a lot of things that are unexplained. I’ve been asked before whether I want to open up another inquiry. I don’t really see the point at this stage.
“But I think anyone who knows – again, this is the most amazing thing that, of over the last, what, five years, especially the last two years, the amount of people that I’ve met here in America, everyone knows where they were and what they were doing the night my mother died. And I never thought about that at all.”
He recalls the “crazy” moment he drove through the tunnel himself.
“When you’ve actually experienced the same thing, which you assume your mother’s driver was experiencing at the time, then it’s really hard to, I guess, understand how some people have come away with the conclusions of that night. And that the people that were predominantly responsible for it, all got away with it.”
‘At least we know the way’
Prince Harry says how it was “very strange” for him and his brother, then 12 and 14, going on walkabouts with mourners outside Kensington Palace after his mother’s death.
“Everyone thought and felt like they knew our mum. And the two closest people to her, the two most-loved people by her, were unable to show any emotion in that moment,” he tells Mr Bradby.
Discussing the symbolic moment the brothers walked behind Princess Diana’s coffin, the Duke of Sussex says: “There’s absolutely no way that I would let him do that by himself. And there’s absolutely no way that he would let me do that by myself. It was, if it was role reversal.”
He adds: “Just recently I was, we, my brother and I were walking the same route, and we sort of joked to each other and said, ‘at least we know the way’.”
Harry sees Princess Diana in his dreams
Tom Bradby explains how in his memoir Spare, Prince Harry recalls seeing his mother in his dreams and saying “Mummy, Mummy, is that you?”
Prince Harry tells the interviewer: “I refer to it as post-traumatic stress injury because I’m not a person with a disorder. I know I’m not.”
I lost many memories before my mother’s death, says Prince Harry
Prince Harry explains how his memoir Spare begins with the death of his mother.
“I never want to be in that position, part of the reason why we are here now, I never ever want to be in that position. I don’t want history to repeat itself. I do not want to be a single dad,” he tells Mr Bradby.
“And I certainly don’t want my children to have a life without a mother or a father.”
He adds: “I lost a lot of memories. on the other side of this mental wall, which I think is so relatable for so many people who’ve experienced loss, especially as a youngster, that inability to be able to like drag the memories back over. I think a lot of it was a defence mechanism.”
Duke of Sussex recalls moment his mother died
Prince Harry moves onto the death of his mother, Princess Diana, in a car crash in Paris in 1997.
He recalls the moment he was told by Charles of her death at Balmoral Castle, while still a child.
He tells Mr Bradby: “I began silently pleading with Pa, or God, or both, “No, no, no.” Pa looked down into the folds of the old quilts and blankets and sheets. “There were complications. Mummy was quite badly injured and taken to hospital, darling boy.” He always called me darling boy, but he was saying it quite a lot now. “
“His voice was soft. He was in shock, it seemed. “Oh, hospital?” “Yes, with a head injury.” Did he mention paparazzi? Did he say she’d been chased? I don’t think so. I can’t swear to it but probably not.
He remembers his father telling him: “They tried, darling boy. I’m afraid she didn’t make it.”
‘Never complain, never explain is just a motto’
Prince Harry tells Tom Bradby in the interview that the Royal Family motto of “never complain, never explain…was just a motto”.
“There was a lot of complaining and there was a lot of explaining and it continues now,” he says.
ITV interview begins: 38 years of others telling my story
Much of Prince Harry’s revelations are “jaw-dropping”, interviewer Tom Bradby says in the opening of the programme.
The first question put to the Prince is: why have you done this?
He responds: “38 years, 38 years of having my story told by so many different people, with intentional spin and distortion felt like a good time to own my story and be able to tell it for myself.
“I don’t think that if I was still part of the institution that I would have been given this chance to. So, I’m actually really grateful that I’ve had the opportunity to tell my story because it’s my story to tell.”
The Prince adds: “And if it had stopped, by the point that I fled my home country with my wife and my son fearing for our lives, then maybe this would’ve turned out differently. It’s hard.”
Here we go
The ITV Tom Bradby interview with Prince Harry has begun.